how much room are they going to give him even with paul ryan acting as a liaison? >> again, the first thing we have to do is get the fiscal cliff fixed. i think governor romney would like to extend everything for a year. if you look at fiscal policy history, when you have a president who leads, a president that negotiates with the other side and uses treasury staff to write a tax bill and then sends that bill up to congress and says, look, guys, this is the best we can do. no cherry picking. that's the history of successful presidential leadership. it's not something we've seen over the last four years and something you will see if governor romney is elected. he'll be compromising and negotiating and trying to get legislation done as he did in massachusetts. >> there was a suggestion that if president obama lost the election would veto any move on the fiscal cliff that didn't involve a higher rate of taxation on the wealthy people in the country. how do you work around that? how disruptive could that be? >> you know, i think there's been a lot of speculation about